I came across this blog post last night in regards to the other post I posted yesterday.
First let me make this clear. Despite the fact that many supporters of the Domestic Discipline blog are claiming that I aksed people to swarm the blog and post mean comments; I did not ask anyone to do such a thing. I just posted a public blog post link. And wrote of my shock and distast for what I read on it. That is all I did.
People post links they disagree with everyday. I see it done on facebook, disscussion boards, blogs, and even mainstreem news websites post links to contraversial subjects and practices.
What I did, was not against the law, and it is in support of the freedom of speech. If it offends you that people disgree with your public forum, it might be better for you keep things private. I will not disgree that it can feel intimidating, but the reality that is how it goes.
I get flamed a lot myself for my points of view on this blog. But it helps me to step back from the flaming, take a deep breath and have confidence in what I believe in and learn to enjoy the debate and discussion for what it is and view it as an opportunity to exercise my mind when it is challanged.
So without further ado, here is a great post on why “Christian” Domestic Discipline is not Christian:
http://thixiasviews.wordpress.com/2008/03/08/christian-domestic-discipline-is-biblically-wrong/
Jumpers to Jeans 
While it is an interesting view point, many who practice DD are not Christians, but Muslims, Jews, atheist, etc. There is CDD, LDD, and DD. Christian Domestic Discpline, Loving Domestic Discipline, and Domestic Discipline. So even though some can argue that CDD isnt Christian (and others can take the same bible, intrepret it different and have a different point… take the crazy Westborro Baptist Church for example, everyone has different opinions on what the bible is saying. It even differs from Catholic, to Methodist, to Baptist). So even if I agreed that CDD is not Christian (I dont agree but for arguments sake) it wouldnt make any difference if I was a christian or not. Some people believe in traditional gender roles and some people just think DD works in their lives and their marriages. I dont think to many disproving the theory as Christian would make much of a difference.
Here is a link for you to explore. Honestly, I havent read much on this site but it is dedicated to the Christian aspect of DD: http://www.christiandd.com/
Interesting. Thanks for sharing, I’ve never read that before.
I made an early comment on the previous thread and have kept out of this because Brinlee has asked for respect, and as a mandated reporter for child and family services, it’s very hard for me to speak of this issue nicely.
But even so, Brinlee has asked for it and I want to give her what she asks for.
The scripture used for DD, she tells us, is Ephesians 5:22-24.
I’d like to share another scripture and see how she or anyone else feels about it.
This is prophesying about the coming of Jesus. I recommend reading and even meditation all of Isaiah 52:13-53:12 to get a grasp on the will of God concerning punishment, but want to give a few snippets here to whet your appetite.
Isaiah 53:8 By oppression and judgement
He was taken away;
And as for His generation, who considered
That He was cut off out of the land of the living,
For the transgression of my people to whom the stroke was due?
Vs 10 But the Lord was pleased
To crush Him, putting Him to grief;
If He would render Himself as a guilt offering,
He will see His offspring,
He will prolong His days,
And the good pleasure of the Lord will prosper in His hand.
Vs 11 As a result of the anguish of His soul,
He will see it and be satisfied;
By His knowledge the Righteous One,
My Servant, will justify the many,
As He will bear their iniquities.
Vs 12 Therefore, I will allot Him a portion with the great,
And He will divide the booty with the strong;
Because He poured out Himself to death,
And was numbered with the transgressor;
Yet He Himself bore the sin of many,
And interceded for the transgressors.
Brinlee, I fear you are accepting the stroke that Jesus bore for you instead of letting Him bear your burden.
By allowing another to punish you for your sins, you are not accepting the gift Jesus gives of Himself to you to be your guilt offering.
He bled and died to justify the many, but you aren’t accepting it. It is as though you and your spouse feel that somehow, through your punishment, you can be justified. You can’t. It’s wasted effort on for both you and Parker. Especially Parker because he really isn’t called to be your judge, jury, and executer of discipline. He’s taking the place of Jesus in your life. And I fear for him as much as you, taking what belongs to God for himself. He’s walking in dangerous territory.
Jesus ever lives to make intercession for us. But it is a gift we must receive, not a work we can take enough whacks to pay for.
God has raised Jesus up after the price He paid for us on the Cross and has given Him all glory and dominion. He bore your sins. Why are you trying to bear them again?
(If I sound the least bit disrespectful, I really am sorry. I wanted to get these scriptures to you as best I could because I feel you may be missing something in understanding what redemption and Christianity is about.)
Mara that was beautifully said. And as I said on Lewis’ blog, before I understood the completeness of Jesus sacrifice, I used to “punish” myself. I would often spank myself with a wooden spoon, pull out my hair, pull at my skin (very hard), and it would “calm me down” after I had been “naught” (Usually it was a panic attack)
Now that I see the fullness of Jesus work on Calvary, I haven’t really felt the need to absolve my guilt through punishment of myself. I realize he has paid for all of my sin. There is nothing for me to do about it, except walk in the truth. ♥
I imagine you’ve gotten some flack for sharing the link.
I’m with you – punishment made me feel better. I posted on Lewis’ blog that a few years ago I would’ve probably embraced DD. I don’t feel disgust or revulsion or like it’s so weird or anything… just sadness.
I ❤ your blog. 🙂
If you don’t like disagreement, don’t post stuff on a public blog on the internet for everyone to see. End of story.
Also, it’s pretty clear from the blog that their “discipline” is way more about a sexual kink and way less about religion or anything else.
Someone posted: “Does you husband give a worse punishment to himself for his own sins?”
That was an excellent point. This was the logic of one man I know: Col. 3:18 and Eph. 5:22 & 33 tells women to submit to their husbands. Eph. 5:23-33 equates the husband’s authority to Christ’s. Christ will judge and punish evil doers. So men have an obligation to punish their wives. (He was obviously hinting to the rest of us in the discussion that he wanted someone to come right out and say that men can hit their wives.)
What shocked many of us was how Col. 3:19, telling men not to be harsh with their wives, got eliminated from the discussion. And as for the Eph. 5:22-33, Christ died so that we wouldn’t be punished. And James 3:1: Anyone in a position of authority, including husbands, will be held to a harsher standard.
I agree with the comment that was posted on that linked blog. If a man isn’t willing to consistently inflict on himself a more severe beating for lesser offenses, why would he insist that he can spank his wife? No doubt that claiming to be a representative of Christ on earth has got to be the worst excuse for domestic violence possible.
Like in everything in life you are going to have different opinions to absolutely everything. The only important fact about DD or LDD is the fact that many couples are adopting this practice of discipline and respect to better their relationships.
If this concept is accepted as a life style for the couple and it is a consensual decision, other people’s opinions are just not very important.
If that is what you believe about other people opinions are not that important, why did you comment? I still believe DD is harmful to the soul, and I will share what I believe.
I know everybody has their own opinions and they all should be respected but Personal Failure, I think you should not put everybody in the same box.
I happen to life in a domestic discipline lifestyle and I can assure you that we do not practice it as part of our religion or as part of our sexual life.
DD for us is all about trying to have a happy and balance marriage where there are no fights, arguments or confrontations. We talk and we live in harmony (or so we try :))
We all not have to agree but everybody is different and we all have different ways of making our relationships work, right?
That is your opinion that I am putting everyone in the same box. Thank you for respecting that I have an opinion. My opinion is that it is DD is demeaning to a couple even if it is not practiced as a part of religion, or sexuality. I write my opinion….and I do not believe DD has a healthy balance.